Recently, we saw a lawyer, saying that the collection measures taken by the bank or a third party were not obviously improper, but the content of individual collection information may be inappropriate, etc., which made us feel very surprised, and we can even feel how the lawyer's license for this kind of remark was obtained. Many netizens expressed doubts about the qualifications of the lawyer who made such remarks.
After seeing such a short news report**, the relevant practitioners in the legal profession know that the lawyer's remarks are obviously inappropriate, and the fact is that in recent years, the victim will receive a variety of virtual dialing software or false numbers every day**, and after connecting to these**, the victim will also ask to verify the identity information of these collectors, and will also ask these so-called collectors to provide relevant proof that the bank or online loan platform entrusts themThere are even victims who ask these so-called collectors to provide relevant evidence other than whether they "owe money", but these basic requirements as victims have been repeatedly rejected by these so-called "collectors", and even in the end, the victims' requests for these so-called collectors to provide the basic requirements of the company to which they belong will be refused, which is obviously evading legal responsibility.
Several lawyers have been involved in illegal collections and have even used their "identities" to protect criminals who have violated victims
In fact, in recent years, many people have been illegally violated by unidentified collectors, and at the same time, they will also receive some third-party lawyers who claim to be outsourced by banks or online lending platforms. And we believe that as a lawyer, we will not be unaware that this behavior is an infringement of citizens' personal information.
For another example, some netizens reacted that the text messages sent by some lawyers to them were simply ridiculous and ignorant, and the text used in the text messages was full of typos, and they also left their own law firm's ** in the text messages, and when they called the ** in the text messages, they found that these so-called lawyers "don't understand bullshit" at all, and some so-called lawyers forged official seals and used word games to threaten victims when sending text messages and lawyers' letters to victims. And these actions have led the victims to question the identity of these so-called lawyers.
Lawyers should be held legally liable for inappropriate remarks because they cannot verify the identity of the collector
When we see such remarks about the lawyer in the short ** of a news**, we feel that this may not be what the lawyer said at all, and there is a possibility of "news fraud" in this news**, because since the outbreak of the overdue tide, there is a common feature of the collection ** received by the victim, that is, after receiving the collection**, the other party cannot provide their legal identity information for the victim to verify, and this just infringes on the victim's right to know.
The lawyer's statement that "there is no obvious impropriety in the collection measures of the bank or the entrustment of a third party, but the expression of the content of individual collection information may be improper" is simply ridiculous, because the so-called lawyer does not matter whether he exists or not, such a statement has an obvious misguided behavior, and the most objective reason is how the so-called lawyer can conclude that there is no obvious impropriety in the collection measures entrusted by the bank or online lending platform? Is it inappropriate to harass the victim's relatives, friends, and contacts in the address book or call logs? **Female victim was charged with p*** and insulting remarks, is this considered no obvious inappropriateness? Is there no obvious misconduct in using a "bomb you" or "SMS bomber" to bomb the victim's phone continuously?
In addition, the so-called lawyer's remarks are clearly inappropriate, because most of the victims' abuses are criminal violations, and the lawyer's remarks clearly treat the victim's criminal infringement by unidentified collectors as "no wrongdoing", and even wantonly describe the objective fact that the victims are being violated almost every day as only individual collection misconduct, which gives the impression that This lawyer obviously deviated from financial institutions, intentionally or unintentionally, and failed to maintain the basic basic principles of "openness, impartiality and fairness" as a lawyer.
Maybe there are obvious violations, we didn't see the name of this lawyer in the short ** report of a news**, or maybe this so-called lawyer does not exist at all, this remark is just a way for a news ** to attract people's attention, the most objective reason is that in recent years, although there are individual lawyers in helping illegal collection agencies to carry out illegal collection, and even forge the official seal of law firms or lawyers, send threatening and intimidating text messages and other illegal acts, But they also know that just the victim of the lawyer's letter or text message cannot prove anything, and even in this way, the victim cannot sue at all, and they will not admit that these fake lawyer's letters or text messages were sent by them, and once it comes to the news**, then it will be easier to find them, and I am afraid that even the local bar association will not let go of this so-called lawyer.
The man said that they "threatened and intimidated" and caused damage such as divorce, and I wanted a fair answer
Whether as a P2P online loan platform or a bank credit card user, we will receive some "threat and intimidation" text messages intentionally or unintentionally, and even sometimes receive some very strange content text messages, and I am afraid that many people can come up with this kind of *** picture, and even provide a lot of ** recordings, but, in this factual situation, the so-called lawyer actually called this illegal act no obvious misconduct, which is simply ridiculous.
Mr. Wang from Henan recently said that he had borrowed some loans from online loan platforms in 2017 to repay credit card debts, although he had paid off these loans, in recent years I have often received reminders from some unidentified people**, in ** I have repeatedly said that I have paid off, and even can provide mobile phone screenshots when paying off, but these so-called unidentified people not only do not want to, but even ask me to repay again at a certain point in time, if I don't repay, They will call my relatives and friends, the work unit I work for, the contacts in the address book, and the contact in the call log, telling them that I am a person who owes money and does not pay it back.
And because of this, I have been blackmailed many times by these so-called collectors in the past three years in 2017, 2018, and 2019, and even my daughter-in-law divorced me because of this, and even because these so-called collectors repeatedly used virtual dialing software to harass the unit I worked for ** and was dismissed from my job, we would like to ask this so-called lawyer, these illegal acts such as extortion, infringement of citizens' personal information, and threats and insulting text messages received. Is it in your eyes that there is no wrongdoing in the collection?
At the beginning, after I was blackmailed, I also contacted the customer service of the online loan platform involved, and the customer service of these online loan platforms told me very clearly that these people who called me ** were not the third-party collection companies they entrusted, and when I asked them to provide the basic information of their outsourced third-party collection companies, they were refused, and when I asked why I was in this online loan platform's user information, these collectors who didn't even dare to provide identity information knew, but this online loan platform replied, These so-called collectors may have purchased them through illegal channels, and I wonder why the customer information of this online lending platform can be purchased from what they call illegal channels. However, the customer service of this online loan platform did not reply to my questions.
OneEven the "threats and intimidation" of the collectors, the lawyer claims that there is no wrongdoing, what about conscience and conscience?
At the beginning, I felt very different when I saw this short **, because I felt that the profession of "lawyer" was very sacred, because they helped the weak to get the fairest judgment, and this lawyer's remarks obviously lost the "fair" view of the incident itself, and even regarded the illegal infringement of the victim by the collector as "no wrongdoing", which is obviously an act of contempt of laws and regulations.
Because the ** recordings, text messages, WeChat screenshots, etc. that the victim can provide, can prove the performance of these so-called collection violations and crimes, and can also be used as the basis and evidence to prove the crime of these so-called collectors infringing on the rights and interests of the victims, and we would like to ask the so-called lawyer, whether the "no improper behavior" of his actions can provide relevant evidence to prove that these so-called collections "have no improper collection behavior" in the process of collection?
I think this so-called lawyer must not be able to come up with it, because when it comes to the choice of legal fairness and monetary interests, he did not choose legal fairness, but chose monetary interests, which is one way for this lawyer to say such things, but he can neither prove nor convince everyone of this kind of remarks, and everyone cannot know who this so-called lawyer is? In the end, it can only be a "joke" and laugh, what do you think?