Qin army vs Eight Banner soldiers, can Qin Shi Huang s army beat the army of the Qing army when it e

Mondo History Updated on 2024-02-07

Since Qin Shi Huang established the real feudal dynasty in Chinese history,It lasted for more than 2,000 years until the fall of the Qing Dynasty. During this period, different dynasties had different levels of development, and at the same time there were noticeable changes in military power.

So can the Qin army commanded by Qin Shi Huang beat the army that entered the Qing Dynasty during the Qing Dynasty? You must know that both armies are invincible beings of their respective dynastiesThrough some data recording and analysis, the results were unexpected.

Terracotta Warriors and Horses of the Mausoleum of Qin Shi Huang)

The Qin army led by Qin Shi Huang can be said to be the "army of kings" in that era. After all, the Qin army helped Qin Shi Huang sweep away the six countries and dominate the world, and after the establishment of the Qin Dynasty, they fought the Xiongnu in the north, and the other party "did not dare to go south and herd horses". Immediately afterwards, he moved to the land of Baiyue, directly took Guilin, Xiangjun and other areas, and even fought to the current Southeast Asian region.

I have to say that the Qin army at that time was indeed an existence that was feared by all countries and large and small forces, and it was an invincible brave army. And that's not all,Among the troops, there are also "killing gods" Bai Qi, generals Meng Tian and Wang Jian and others, and their combat effectiveness has risen by more than one level.

Of course, the establishment of the Qin army was certainly not something that could be completed overnight, but was the result of years of painstaking management by several generations of Qin monarchs.

Qing army training map).

As early as the Spring and Autumn Period and the Warring States Period, the Qin State, which was only a small border country at that time, was far inferior in strength to other vassal states. However, through the reform of the law and the crusade of the vertical and horizontal,The development of the Qin State is getting bigger and bigger, and the military merit system has become a very important system at that time.

In order to change their fate and enjoy the glory and wealth, many people are desperately going to the battlefield to make contributions. Over time, more and more people followed Qin Shi Huang.

According to the "History of Qin" and related historical records, the number of Qin troops at its peak could reach 1 millionThe number of troops led by the general Wang Jian when he set out on the expedition was as high as more than 600,000, which shows the scale and strength of the Qin army at that time.

Qin Shi Huang) compared with the Qin army, the Qing army when it entered the customs was not inferior. This army also has a resounding name, that is, the "Eight Banner Army", it can be said that the Eight Banner Army was synonymous with the Manchu Qing Dynasty at that time, and it was also the most important combat effectiveness. This army was originally established by Nurhachi during the Wanli period of the Ming Dynasty, and grew during the reign of Huang Taiji.

The so-called "Eight Banners" refers to a kind of military organization system of the Manchus at that timeThere is also the establishment of household registration within the clan, and they used the flag as the name at that time, which was divided into eight flags: yellow, white, red, blue, yellow, white, red, and blue.

Each flag has its own armyThe eight flags are divided into "three on the top and five down", that is, the three flags of yellow, inlaid yellow and blue are "upper three", and the rest are "lower five".

Qing army battle map).

The three banners are directly led by the emperor, and they are among the top combat forces in the army, and they are also equipped with the best. Although the other five flags are inferior, the gap is not very large. It's just that because of the hierarchical and inferior system, it is not directly under the jurisdiction of the emperor, and if it is about the combat ability of individual soldiers, it may not lose to the three banners.

In addition to this, the Eight Banners Army was good at cavalry warfare. After all, they are from a nomadic background, and since they were children, they have been riding horses and wrestling, learning to ride and shoot, and they are immediately good at kung fu. The Central Plains Dynasty mainly fought with infantry, so it was inevitable that they would be afraid when facing the mighty cavalry, and their combat effectiveness was also greatly reduced.

In actual combat, the Qing army always won more with less. In the battle with the Ming army, the Eight Banners Army, which was less than 60,000, beat the Ming army of more than 100,000 and fled, without the power to fight back. Although it is said that the Ming Dynasty was politically corrupt at that time, the army was sloppy, and there were no generals who could lead the three armies, it was not so lazy, no matter how it was said that they were all soldiers stationed in the frontier, it can only be said that the combat effectiveness of the Eight Banners Army was too strong.

Huang Taiji stills).

What's even more incredible is thatWhen the Qing army entered the customs, the strength was only about 140,000, but the Ming army had no less than a million divisionsBut he couldn't beat the other party, and he was always in a state of defeat.

Of course, there must be many Ming troops who are messing arounddid not have enough combat effectiveness, coupled with the corruption of officials in the late Ming Dynasty, Wu Sangui rebelled again. The superposition of various factors naturally made it easy for the Qing army to attack the pass, thus achieving the legendary title of "invincible".

In general, the Qin army and the Qing army when they first entered the customs in terms of their respective dynasties and overall combat effectivenessThey were all irresistible existences at the timeIf these two armies clash each other, which side will emerge victorious?

Portrait of Qin Shi Huang).

First of all, in terms of the number of troops, the number of troops of the Qin army at its peak was close to one million. Although many of them were incorporated surrender armies, or local armies, the actual number of troops was smaller than this, but they all exceeded 600,000.

On the other hand, the number of troops when the Qing army entered the customs was very small, only more than 100,000, and the death will not exceed 200,000. Therefore, the Qing army did not have an advantage in numbers, and it was very likely that it would be defeated because of the disparity in combat power.

Secondly, from the point of view of equipment, the Qin army uses cold weapons, mainly bronzeSuch as swords, halberds, etc., are also wearing relatively ordinary armor.

Diagram of the Qin army's chariot).

And the Eight Banners Army that entered the customs at that time was different, with advanced bows and crossbows, sharp iron weapons**, and artillery and the likeYou must know that gunpowder has been used since the Tang Dynasty, so it is not uncommon for the Qing army to use it when entering the customs. In addition, they are good at riding and shooting, and their combat strength is very strong, and with the same strength, the Qin army is estimated to be pressed to the ground and rubbed.

Finally, from the perspective of individual combat capabilities, the Qin army may be superior. The reason is also very simple, that is, due to the influence of the regional environment and national policies, the individual combat ability of the soldiers of the Qin army can be better than that of the Eight Banners Army when the Qing army entered the customs.

Although the Eight Banners Army was once a legend and was praised by countless people, people ignored that the Ming army at that time was already vulnerable. It is undeniable that the Qing army at that time was certainly powerful, but it was not invincible, but it just ran into a group of soft persimmons like the Ming armyGive them a bad beating.

Qin army stills) But later when the Anglo-French alliance and the Eight-Nation Alliance invaded China, the Qing army was not like the Ming army back then, and was powerless to fight back. On the other hand, the combat effectiveness of the Qin army did not plummet like that of the Qing army, and they always maintained the combat ability that a warrior should have.

And it is worth mentioning that many people in the Qin army are tall and tallFor example, we know Qin Shi Huang. It is said that his height may be nearly two meters, and the lowest is one meter**,From this point of view, the height of the people of the Qin Dynasty is still very high. I think the average height of the army is not low, after all, Qin Shi Huang and his old man can't recruit some soldiers who are about 1.6 meters.

The average height of the Qing army as a whole is very low, mainly because they are nomads in the north, lack of resources, and many people are malnourished, which also leads to the general height of the ancestors of the Qing Dynasty. thanFor example, Emperor Qianlong of the Qing Dynasty was only about 1.7 meters tall, so just looking at the height, the Qin army had a certain advantage.

Of course, the army does not only look at its height, it is only a factor that affects its combat effectiveness. However, you must know that after the Song Dynasty, it advocated emphasizing civil affairs over military force, which simply means attaching importance to civilian officials and despising military generals, which is also an important factor in the Song and Ming dynasties that are difficult to resist the enemy. Judging from this policy system, the individual combat effectiveness of the Qing army at that time was not necessarily very strong.

But the Qin Dynasty was different, at that time it was a military merit system. Warriors are rewarded according to their personal merits, and the more enemies they kill on the battlefield, the more land and money they are given, and they can also be passed on to their children and grandchildren.

Therefore, the soldiers of the Qin army went to the battlefield one by one as if they were crazy, extremely brave, and this alone may be even worse than the Qing army.

Qing troops armed with muskets)

Having said that, these are all comparisons of data, plus some considerations such as actual conditions and policies, which may not be very accurate.

If you talk about who can win, personally, you tend to favor the Qin army. Let's put aside the artillery fire and other epochal **, the Qin army has a stronger strike ability, more numbers, all of them are experienced in a hundred battles, and the Qing army is inevitably not an opponent, so what do you think about this?

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