Reprinted from the ministry for many years, tell you the truth

Mondo Social Updated on 2024-02-14

Landing plans within the system

Ministries and commissions are called at the level of departments and bureaus, and AliP-seriesIt's almost the same, but the administrative system is applicable to the whole country, and the people understand it.

If you are interested in searching for office space standards, ** the director of the organ is 24 square meters, the deputy director is 18 square meters, the main department is 12 square meters and the department level is below 9 square meters; In the city, the main department is 24, and the deputy department is 18; In the county, it is 18 sub-counties, and 12 are in the main department. Of course, the price of land in Beijing is much more expensive, but this comparison is interesting, and I feel that from the perspective of powerThe head of the ministry is roughly equivalent to the main department of the county.

In the work of ministries and commissions, a director of the ** department can manage an industry, a director of the retired cadres bureau can manage the activities of veteran comrades, and a director of the party committee of an organ only writes documents on studying ideas every dayThe salary is the same, the house is the same, the treatment is about the same, the power in the hands is different, and the resources are different, I hear all kinds of news every day, but the vast majority of people don't dare to seek personal gain.

Most of the business positions are hard996 is normal。Men can't take care of their families, and older single women are even more difficult. There are a lot of people who have a sense of accomplishment, and there are a lot of annoying things to do.

The average income of the ministry is at the department level, because the average age is in the 40sThe pre-tax includes a provident fund of 180,000 yuan, and about 140,000 yuan is in hand, personal matters to be reported every year,There are no secrets about the organization, with a maximum income of 300,000 yuan, is the boss in the building.

The young people who just went in are indeed more miserable, a few thousand yuan a month, which is enough to rent a room to eat in the canteen, the canteen is cheap and delicious, and you have to pick and search for a meal outsideIf a man wants to fall in love and chase a girl, he won't have much money if he gives a gift and eats a meal

Also, income is notThe immediate low is the continuous lowThere was basically no growth……To be honest, the baby can't afford to go to extracurricular classes.

MinistriesSeparate rooms20 years ago, there was a policy to raise funds for housing, and the organs and institutions were divided together, and many people in the agency had no money to buy a house when they were divided, and they missed the opportunity of the real estate market.

The subordinate institutions, whose income is much higher than that of the ministries and commissions, gritted their teeth and bought a suite by themselves, plus the houses that were divided together in the early days, and their lives were much better than those of the organs.

In recent years, only the State Administration has divided the room, and it has waitedAfter ten years and eight years, he has survived at the level of the departmentTo see if there is any hope for the three banners in the west of the suburbs, you have to queue up, and the more people in the ministries and commissions, the longer you will wait.

The promotion of ministries and commissions, after all, is a high level of the temple. Seven or eight years for a master's degree and four or five years for a doctor's degree are the deputy divisionsThere are quite a few deputy directors in their early 30s, and deputy directors in their 35s are very ordinary, this road is smooth, the presiding officer is in the right place, about 40 deputy director, about 45 main director, and then become a senior leading cadre, hope to basically depend on .......fate

Most people work in a down-to-earth manner, and there is a high probability of department-level retirement. In recent years, the positions and ranks have been parallelThe actual position depends on the ability, and the level depends on the seniority, Basically, every two years, first-level researchers in their 40s abound, although it is just treatment, it is also the right place.

As for the outward release, mainlyTemporary posting, the superior has index requirements every year; The first batch of individuals who can be exchanged to local posts was in 2010, and most of them are already at the provincial and ministerial level, and they are about to retire in the past two years.

The political security of the ministry and commission, only those whose household registration is in Xicheng can protect Xicheng, and those whose household registration is in Chaoyang cannot be guaranteed, so not everyone can protect it. You can't keep the best, you can keep it from slipping, and you have to rely on yourself in the end to study. The political security is to be publicized internally, which is a transitional product of the joint construction of the year.

The national examination of ministries and commissions, millions of troops every year, that is because of the low threshold, dozens of yuan of registration fees, what is the cost, and the resume cannot be screened at will, it must be conceded. In the past ten years, there has been a period of time when fresh graduates cannot be recruited, and the quality of students has declined and the phenomenon of aging is obviousThere are obviously more TOP schoolsand hopefully they will stick to it.

The way out for the ministriesThe first is to work in a down-to-earth manner, a refreshing and refreshing relationship, and make rapid progress if you are capable, the soldiers basically don't need to know where the director and director live, and they don't have to think about gifts.

The second is to have the opportunity to choose to go out, to the enterprise or to the institution income will be greatly improved, generally divided into a room and then go out, but have to be clean. The third is to boil ......

Let's talk about the situation of some colleagues in other ministries and commissions, all of which I have heard about for reference:

Colleague A:The big brother in his 50s, who is also the oldest person in the department, was assigned a house and bought a house at a low point, and he can know a lot of past events by communicating with the big brother.

For example, before 2000, civil servants in ministries and commissions were the ceiling of blind dates in Beijing, and parents spared no effort to get to know the single young people in ministries and commissions, and even individual fathers-in-law spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy a car in order to get their son-in-law happy (this was before 2000, when the car was similar to a house in Beijing) and the current boys in the ministry wanted to be virtuous sons-in-law, which was completely different.

Another example is that it is becoming more and more difficult for young people, he thinks that people before 75 years ago are more lucky, work early, get a house, and the location of the house is generally good.

Generally, there are also property rights, which can be sold directly, and once sold, it is several million. Even if there is no subdivision, you will also buy a house, just need it, and how cheap the house was at that time. People born in 75-90 years, the division of the house is slow, the house price begins to rise a little bit, but gritted teeth can also get on the car, and wait until 90 years after the birth, especially after the wave of price increases in 16 years, to the ministry, can only be sent to visit their parents or the other half, male marriage is generally very difficult.

Colleague B:The 80-year-old male director, who is expected to be the deputy director in the future, should have a house and a car

said that the pressure was too great, the work was busy, and when I got home, my wife and son had already slept, but for the sake of work and for the ...... of our departmentAs a party member, we must lead by example......is worthy of being the director, and he always inadvertently attends party classes

Colleague C:Male deputy director of the post-80s, with a doctorate degree, a house and a car. When chatting, he said that the work was "too busy and stressful, and the current distress is that the unit solves the school in Xicheng is very ordinary, and his position and rank have been transferred to the army and robbed, and he is very depressed." The biggest regret is that I didn't buy one or two more apartments.

Colleague D:A post-80s male Beijinger, this eldest brother's family background is not clear, but his home is in Changping, and he comes to work from Changping. Rent a license plate to work, sometimes limit the number to take the subway, Changping Line to Line 13, Line 2 to Line 1, or 13 to 10 to 4 to 9 and then ride, commuting to work takes more than 4 hours. I won't leave ..... if I work overtimeThe unit has a folding bed, quilt and the like....

Colleague E:Around 90 years of Shandong eldest brother, the eldest brother didn't speak, but he complained a few times that he couldn't find a partner, and he always laughed at himself for being an old dick with no house, no car and no money. Although it is a smoke-free unit, the eldest brother likes to secretly smoke a few sticks in the toilet to solve his worries. It's not easy.

I complained that I was also admitted to the Shandong civil service and gave up, and what if I went, I regret it now. It is more popular to be a civil servant in Shandong, at least you can find a partner, and then buy a house, start a family, and live.

Colleague F:92 years of young lady selection, top2 bachelor's and master's degrees. At present, there is no house or car, and at present, within the fourth ring of the dormitory, I am always secretly praying that I hope to divide the room early, but if I live in a house outside the fifth ring road of the unit, I am very worried about commuting one way a day at least 1 hour. Now I always ask me to introduce people, and when I introduce a few, either she doesn't like it, and she doesn't like her at all.

Colleague G:95 years of young sister, entered the national examination. It means that he is too busy at work, has a low salary, is afraid of being scolded by the leader every day, has not been on a blind date, and is full of yearning for love.

Colleague h:The eldest brother in the outer room, who was originally selected into the ministry by a civil servant in the Greater Bay Area, can be said to have his own experienceExcited to cautious, to extremely regretful, to confused。When I was in Guangdong, I could get to 30W without counting the provident fund, and after coming to Beijing, I could not count the provident fund to less than 14W.

If you don't look at the provident fund, only see the amount of hands, Beijing is about one-third of Guangdong. What's more, the pressure in Guangdong is not so great, and it has also given a public rental house, and now it can only hope to divide the turnover housing as soon as possible and solve the housing problem first.

Something to add:

1. Regarding income, it is said that it has risen a lot recently, but the fact is that in recent years, there has been a general survey of basic salaries, covering millions of civil servants across the country. The average increase is inTwo or three hundred dollars per month, there is no special policy in the ministry. Because the discipline requirements are very strict, I can't elaborate on them for fear of arousing public opinion.

2. Say the ministryIt is more than 30 years of after-tax incomeIn a broad sense, there is no problem, many subordinate units are in the second-level departments, and Director XX also claims to work in ministries and commissions, but this is not a civil servant. Just like the civil servants of the ministry said that they work in ***, in fact, there is nothing wrong with it, after all, they are the staff of the cabinet department, and the staff is not just the staff of the general office.

3. ** and state organs, not only civil servants, but also all kinds of subordinate units are counted, such as the people's ** Hainan Branch, ** under a research institute, etc., and their income varies from one million to one hundred thousand. However, the income of civil servants is a fiscal allocationThe standards for each post are consistent, whether it is the Ministry of Finance, or the Ministry of Civil AffairsThe incomes are all about the same, only the public security law has a slightly higher subsidy.

4. When reporting personal matters in 2022, the income being handled includes the actual annual income of various bonuses, allowances, subsidies and other bonuses, allowances and subsidies after deducting income tax, pension insurance, medical insurance, occupational annuity, etc., as well as the part of the provident fund paid by individuals and units (about 3,000 yuan, 1,500 yuan for individual units), which is about 180,000 yuan. Judging from the situation in the past two years, it is unlikely that the capital adjustment is possible, soThere won't be a big change in income. If it is significantly exceeded, you can report it directly.

5. Tell me why you see some people living a good life. Because of their spouses and families of origin! Generally speaking, the spouse of a civil servant is not in the system and has a similar level of academic abilityThe income is at least doubled, and the longer the time passes, the more it changes. Moreover, it does exist for a poor boy in the ministry to find a rich girlMost of the people who work in the ministries and commissions have very good family conditions, but the poor boys just have low incomes, and many of them are not in good conditions and have left a long time ago

It is rare for two people to be civil servants in ministries and commissions, and if they are dual-income workers, there is a high probability that one of them will jump out to earn money to support their families. Moreover, if housing is solved in Beijing, it is not too difficult to live. In addition, relying on the support of the family, in recent years, the families of new entrants, like top college students, have no particularly poor conditions.

6. Regarding endowment insurance and occupational annuity, in 2014, the reform of the endowment insurance system for civil servants in ministries and commissions established a social security account (previously regarded as payment, but now the central insurance payment, different from Beijing social security), according to 2014 and the transition period around 2024 retirement is counted as the elderly, middle-aged people, and newcomers, and the pension calculation methods are different, but the results are roughly the same.

As mentioned above, most people receive a pension from the central insurance if they retire at the department levelAbout more than 10,000 per monthThe level depends on how much they pay and the length of service they have paid while in office, and the pension for demobilized military cadres is usually relatively high. The occupational pension is paid for 139 months, that is, from the age of 70, a part of the income will be reduced. It should be noted here that if you are expelled for violating discipline and law, it means that you will have no retirement benefits, and the previous decades will be in vain.

7. The housing that everyone is most concerned about is mentioned earlier. More than 10 years ago, there was a policy of pooling housing, and the land owned by various ministries and commissions could be used to build houses for units in Beijing - at that time, housing prices had just taken off, and most of their peers had bought houses. In the past ten years, they have relied on the State Administration Bureau, so the bittersweet and bittersweet departments are uneven, depending on the charity of the State Administration Bureau.

It's good to have a chance to divide the room once in two or three yearsMost of them have a chance when they are above the positionThe people who live in Dajiaoting are basically cadres at the department and department level who are in their forties and fifties, and the young ones are basically public rental houses.

Actually, the ministry is about 40 years oldThere are not a few houseless households。The reason why some people are willing to reduce their salaries from public institutions is that the promotion platform is high, and the second is that there are opportunities to divide the house. When he was transferred in, he was at the deputy department level, and he was directly cut into the queue for several years before the students of the national examination.

8. Why are you willing to work in ministries and commissions, and find a job after graduating from college, you don't suffer a loss in the exam anyway. It's okay to get used to it for a long time, but it's okay to be poor and strong.

There are many excellent colleagues in Qingbei around him, and there are also ordinary people from ordinary backgroundsThere are not many people who lie flat, because the rhythm of the mechanism carries people to runOfficer'sThe platform is also largeMany documents can really affect an industry and region, making people very happyA sense of accomplishmentThere's plenty of room to growIn the past 20 years, the small soldiers have grown from the department level to the department level, and the department level has grown to the provincial and ministerial level and even the national level, which is a matter of his side.

The risk cannot be ignoredSeeing him raise a tall building, seeing him feasting guests, seeing his building collapse, there are some people around him who have accidents, power is a double-edged sword, and the risk of being hunted always exists, but the lesson is profound, and I still believe that the vast majority of people can be honest and honest, after all, the country has been moving forward.

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