In 2011, AMD first proposed the concept of "convergence of the future", which made a GPU core and CPU with almost independent graphics specifications on the same chip, so that it has both high-performance processor and graphics computing capabilities, and named it APU. In the years since, APUs have been featured in the AMD product lineup as a reserved item. In recent years, it has become the norm to integrate a graphics core with decent performance in the CPU, and AMD no longer emphasizes the name APU, but this processor with a powerful GPU is never absent, and the model suffix with the letter G gives it a new series classification: Ryzen XXXXG series processors, so that you can recognize it at a glance.
The previous generation of Ryzen G processors is based on the Zen3 architecture of the Ryzen 5000G series, in which the Ryzen 7 5700G equipped with VEGA8 graphics cards has left a deep impression on users, the strongest graphics performance in history and CPU fusion can run most games smoothly at low quality settings, coupled with the wide application of super-resolution performance optimization technologies such as FSR in games, making Ryzen G processors like fish in water, meeting the needs of light games is not a problem at all. Graphics-free mini PCs are also popular, especially for those with limited living space.
The powerful Zen4-based Ryzen 7000 series processors have been a big hit for more than a year, and Gamers who love the G series are looking forward to the arrival of the Zen4 Ryzen G. At the recent CES show, AMD finally announced the most Ryzen 8000G series, which directly crossed the 7000.
There are four products in Ryzen 8000G, namely Ryzen 7 8700G, Ryzen 5 8600G, Ryzen 5 8500G, and Ryzen 3 8300G.
The reason why AMD's latest G-series processors crossed the Ryzen 7000 sequence and was directly named after the Ryzen 8000 sequence is because its promotion and improvement have cross-era significance, let's take a look at what titles Ryzen 8000G has won:
The world's most powerful X86 integrated graphics card, the Radeon RX700M series, has 12 built-in RNA3 CU units, which greatly increases the frequency compared to the previous generation, and is capable of 1080P resolution games.
The world's first AI engine integrated from a desktop processor. The XDNA-based NPU is different from the previous CPU and GPU cores, and this new computing unit enables the general public to obtain dedicated AI model inference hardware, which also does not require a separate GPU. In addition, the Ryzen 8000G generation also adds the X-512 instruction set, which is often involved when performing some AI calculations, which can increase the call of computing resources and improve efficiency.
Double improvement: The IPC of the Zen4 architecture has been increased by 13% compared with the previous generation, and the maximum frequency of the Ryzen 7 8700G has been increased by 500MHz compared with the previous generation 5700G due to the latest TSMC 4nm application, and the single-core performance has been increased by 29%, while the TDP power consumption remains unchanged at 65W, and the performance per watt has increased by an average of 40%. This level has left competitors hovering at 10nm out of reach, and it looks like an electric oil tin.
Comparison of the specifications of the two generations of Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 5 G-series processors:
It should be reminded here that the PCIe independent display channel of Ryzen 8700G and 8600G is still 8X, but the standard has been upgraded to PCIe40。Theoretically, PCIe4The 8x of 0 can also meet the throughput of the independent display, but it depends on the design of the cheat line. The gold finger of mid-to-high-end graphics cards is generally designed for 16x slots, and plugging it into 8x may affect the performance a little. Of course, it is not a rigid requirement for users who usually consider the Ryzen G series to have a dedicated graphics card.
It is worth mentioning that the Ryzen 8000G chip is a separate large core, with a die area of 178mm, built-in 24.5 billion transistors, and the CPU and GPU and AI-specific NPU are integrated together. Unlike the previous Ryzen 7000, which is divided into CCD and IOD chips, a whole chip means that CCX and IO do not need to be docked through the fabric port, which is conducive to improving the stable frequency of FCLK.
8700g, 8600g packaging and physical goods
Ryzen 7 8700g is priced at 2499 yuan for the first time, and Ryzen 5 8600g is priced at 1699 yuan for the first time.
The box is one large and one small
Ryzen 5 8600g box with original radiator
Ryzen 7 8700g box with original radiator
Transparent protective boxes are all the same
The original radiator aluminum extrusion, the thin one on the left is 8600g, the thick one on the right is 8700g, and the pressure of 65w is enough
The radiator fastener is not used for AMD's previous hook torsion bar, this time it is designed as a spring screw to remove the original plastic parts on both sides of the motherboard CPU slot, and use spring screws to screw it directly, which is much more reliable than the previous hook type, not easy to loosen, and it should have been changed a long time ago, AMD finally figured it out.
Solid support: GIGABYTE B650E Ice Sculpture X motherboard
The following introduces the motherboard platform for this test - GIGABYTE B650E AORUS Elite X AX Ice, the model name is too long, hereinafter referred to as B650E Ice Sculpture X.
The white packaging box, simple lines outline AORUS's signature "carving" pattern, and the B650E ice sculpture X motherboard body is even more cold - silver-white heat dissipation aluminum parts plus light gray and white PCB boards, and then add lighting embellishments, making people immediately feel like they are in the recent hot ice sculpture festival. In the summer, I use it to form a transparent all-white PC and put it on the table, and I feel cool when I look at it.
The GIGABYTE B650E Ice Sculpture X offers three PCIe slots that are all full-length. The main graphics card slot is PCIe50 16 standard, with ultra-durable rugged design, frequent plugging and unplugging is not easy to break, very suitable for enthusiasts who love tossing, more suitable for our editors of the review. The other two black slots are PCIe30 1 standard.
GIGABYTE AORUS comes standard with CPU digital power supply, and the B650E Ice Sculpture X adopts a 16-phase design, which is 12 core power supply channels + 2 core power supply channels + 2 SoC power supply channels. Powerful multi-channel power supply can easily support processors of any level, and the B650E faces this generation of Zen4 architecture CPU power consumption is surprisingly low, and it seems that there is no place for the x670. The 6-layer PCB and 2oz copper foil ensure excellent electrical performance of the entire board, and GIGABYTE motherboards never disappoint.
The power supply heatsink on both sides of the CPU socket is connected by heat pipes to conduct heat to each other, adding flexibility to heat dissipation.
It's a clever design to use black for the memory slots, so that it works well with both black and white memory colors.
The B650E Ice Sculpture X has a total of 4 SATA3 interfaces, and the probability of using SATA devices is getting lower and lower.
The CPU power supply is a combination of 8pin + 4pin, which is more than enough considering the low power consumption of these two generations of Ryzen processors.
usb3.2 Gen2 2-cable connector, standard 20Gbps, can be used on the front panel of the chassis.
The motherboard's novel tool-less design
m.2. Heatsink quick-release design, as long as the elastic bolt is pushed to the side, the heatsink can be unlocked.
m.2. The other side of the heat sink is fixed with a metal falcon, which is convenient for quick disassembly.
All m2. Quick-release components are used for fixing from the heatsink to the SSD.
The operation is similar to that of a heat sink, with the screw slots of the SSD embedded underneath by flipping to the side and then snapping back.
Not only is it convenient but also very secure.
In general, GIGABYTE has adopted a novel tool-less and easy-to-assemble design on the B650E Ice Sculpture X motherboard, which greatly improves the operating experience of gamers, making the product more convenient to use and more designed, which is incomparable to many other products with beautiful colors.
The IO panel is very rich, providing a large number of USB ports at different rates, and the two red Type-A ports are USB3 that are straight out of the CPU2 Gen2 lanes, maximum rate 10Gbps. It should be noted that the video output of the IO panel of this motherboard only provides an HDMI21 interface, DP is integrated into the type-C next to it. The Type-C interface is rated at a rate of up to 40Gbps, and the actual speed depends on the CPU specifications used for the USB controller in the SoC connected to the CPU. You can think of it as a USB4 or Thunderbolt 3 port.
WiFi 6E wireless card + Bluetooth 5 based on Realtek RTL8852CE chip0. Free antenna 40Gbps USB-Type C bandwidth test.
This Type-C connector of the GIGABYTE B650E Ice Sculpture X has a powerful spec of DP14. Even the PCIe circuit is integrated into it, isn't it like thunderbolt? Intel has opened the patent copyright for Thunderbolt 3, and although GIGABYTE does not officially call it Thunderbolt, it is undoubtedly compliant with the Thunderbolt 3 standard and can be considered as a USB32 Gen2 2 2 interfaces, i.e. 4 USB32 gen2 overlay.
The interface function is supported by the CPU, and the above rate can be achieved if the CPU meets the requirements, of course, the 8700G currently used for testing is in this range.
This interface can theoretically provide a maximum of 240W power supply, which has great requirements for the motherboard power supply design, and it is not sure whether the B650E Ice Sculpture X can support this power, but its standard starting 100W is absolutely fine.
This enclosure is 40Gbps compliant, and the software is used to measure how fast it can run.
The results show that the maximum read speed is 2800MB s, and if other minor factors are not considered, a transfer rate of 22Gbps is required to achieve a read speed of 2800MBS, which is slightly higher than USB32 Gen2 2 20Gbps level.
For USB mobile devices, the above results are already very good, perhaps in the hard disk enclosure M2 The SSD speed is not fast enough, the following is the data achieved by a certain brother with the same motherboard and Ryzen 8700G.
Nearly 4GB of sequential read and write is true, which shows that the GIGABYTE B650E Ice Sculpture X has a USB specification of 40GbpsIntegration of DP1Video output test for 4A channels
Let's take a look at what other functions this interface has, the motherboard does not provide DP, how is it better to connect to a monitor than DP?
It just so happens that the test platform display supports the TypeRC interface.
As shown in the figure, at 4K resolution, the nominal 120Hz refresh rate of this monitor is perfectly played, and it is really a bit uncomfortable to connect the display with such a thin wire.
Test platform software and hardware and test solutions
The motherboard platform is now in detail, and we are about to enter the testing session, the first priority is, of course, to examine the performance of the Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G integrated graphics cards RX780M and RX760M, which is the part that gamers are most concerned about. We selected competitors for it, namely the 5700G with integrated VEGA8 graphics card in the previous generation, the combination of Intel processor i5 14600K + N card GTX 1650 and i5 13400 + N card GTX 1050Ti, and then an i9 14900K with integrated UHD770 core graphics card as a companion (to set off Intel's weakness in the graphics field?). ）。
In addition, we also have to use benchmarks to examine the performance of 8700G and 8600G as CPUs, and choose i5 14600K and 13400 as opponents, two models of the same price, and their official prices are exactly 2499 yuan and 1699 yuan.
The software and hardware configuration of the test platform is as follows:
As we all know,Online games、E-sports games,In order to be as popular as possible,They usually have relatively low control for hardware requirements,In this test, we won't come to these virtual ones,Go straight to the hard dish:I selected 9 stand-alone game masterpieces that eat graphics cards to test the success of the Ryzen 8000G series,See if it can really rely on its own。
Before testing, we need to tune the platform to the desired performance state. The G.SKILL DDR5-6400 memory used in this test contains AMD-specific EXPO information, similar to XMP, which can be called directly in UEFI. It is worth mentioning that because the Ryzen 8000G processor is upgraded to the 4nm process, and the core is a whole die, there is no global fabric interconnection, so it has a better FLCK physique, which can work at 2400MHz, and the memory controller can also be synchronized 1:1 to the physical frequency of DDR5-6400 - 3200MHz.
GIGABYTE B650E Ice Sculpture X motherboard UEFI supports full PBO adjustment, which can optimize the frequency of the CPU and integrated GPU. Like the previous Ryzen 5000G, the GPU of Ryzen 8000G can also be boosted by 200MHz by default, this performance is given for free, no need to hit luck, all individuals can achieve it. Therefore, in this test, the frequency of the RX780M has become 3100MHz, and the frequency of the RX760M is 3000MHz, and the performance has been optimized.
In addition, UEFI allocates 8GB of memory for the GPUs of the two processors as shared video memory, and it is worth mentioning here that the memory bandwidth throughput is more important than the timing delay, and theoretically equipped with DDR5-7000 or even 8000 frequency memory will be more conducive to the graphics performance of the 8000G series. However, high-frequency memory** is expensive, and high latency still has an impact on daily applications outside of gaming, so the DDR6-6400 was selected for this test, which can be synchronized with the IMC frequency.
With the support of XFI spread spectrum, the actual maximum dynamic frequency of the Ryzen 7 8700G even exceeds the nominal value.
The same goes for the Ryzen 5 8600G, which is over 5GHz
Ryzen 7 8700G Full Load Power Test: 101W uses AIDA64 single-burn FPUs to test the power consumption of two CPUs. The 8700G dynamic spread spectrum has been in effect, and its load frequency is always higher than the base frequency (4.).2GHz), the power consumption is also higher than the 65W calibrated by TDP, and has been maintained at around 100W.
Ryzen 5 8600G full-load power consumption test: 65W8600G is not as able to carry the load as 8700G, at the beginning the power consumption string rose to about 82W, and after the load reached a certain time, it seemed to trigger the power wall threshold, and the frequency fell back to the basic value (4.).3GHz), and the power consumption is exactly 65W, which is the same as TDP.
Whether it is 100W or 65W, a simple air-cooled radiator is sufficient, and there is no need for water cooling.
CPU performance benchmarks are single-threaded
The single-threaded performance of the CPU is compared to frequency and IPC, and from the paper data of the Ryzen 8000G, this aspect is its special strength, because their maximum frequency is only a little over 5GHz, while the average processor of the Ryzen 7000 series is often 53~5.7ghz。
However, the performance of SuperPI-1M is still satisfactory, 8700G and 8600G both broke 7, only with a frequency of 5GHz, indicating that IPC is really good.
Screenshot of Ryzen 7 8700G SuperPi 1M tested.
Ryzen 5 8600G SuperPi 1M measured screenshot i5 14600K has a higher frequency, and the single-thread test still needs to slightly press 8700G at one end, and the next first-order 8600G wins 13400 is still relatively stable.
CPU performance benchmarks for multi-threading
With the combination of P-core + E-core and hundreds of watts of load power consumption, the multi-threaded score is indeed Intel's strong point. It is reasonable that 8700G with 8 cores and 16 threads is inferior to 14600K with 14 cores and 20 threads.
3DMark vs. PCMark benchmarking
Screenshot of Ryzen 7 8700G test.
Ryzen 5 8600G Screenshot After the GIGABYTE B650E Ice Sculpture X motherboard PBO optimization performance, the performance is quite good, and the graphics card score of Fire Strike test outperforms GTX 1650 and 1050Ti in one fell swoop. The 8700G in the Night RAID test is inferior to the 1650Ti, but the 8600G is in the middle of the match with the 1050Ti.
The highlight is that in the PCMARK10 test, which evaluates the performance of the full comprehensive application, Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 6 8600G alone overwhelmed the 14600K, 13400 and N-card independent graphics team respectively, and the two could not do one.
Medium to high quality gaming test in 1080p
Let's start with the setup of the game test. Although Ryzen 8000G is an integrated graphics card, it does not mean that the image quality is manually pulled to the lowest level without brains, and the quality of stand-alone games is different from e-sports that only care about winning or losing, and the poor picture quality will greatly reduce the experience, so the preset combination in our game will maintain an acceptable level even if the image quality is reduced.
In addition, regarding the optimization of the frame rate by super-resolution technology, first of all, all graphics cards do not support closed-source DLSS, even NVIDIA's GTX graphics card does not meet the requirements. Then there are the open source shared FSR and XESS, one of which is led by AMD and the other by Intel, and the author will choose quality, balance or performance according to the needs of the game hardware.
In all of the tests below, when both FSR and XESS are supported, the super-resolution of AMD and NVIDIA graphics cards is optimized to enable FSR, and the accompanying UHD770 core graphics card is enabled to enable XESS
Because AMD's RX780M and 760M both support ray tracing, there is a ray tracing effect in F1 22 that cannot be completely turned off, and the lowest option is "Medium". This means that the two Ryzen 8000G in this test are under heavier loads, and the 8700G is tied at 1650 under the unequal competition, and the 8600G is beaten by the 1050Ti, which is unexpected.
In the above test, 8700G and 1650 have won and lost each other, the frame rate is either close to 100 frames or more than 100 frames, and the high image quality can be so smooth, indicating that the Ryzen 8000G series integrated graphics card is by no means a casual player, but can experience the game masterpiece seriously.
1080p low quality gaming test
The load of the second three games gradually increased, the image quality preset was reduced to a low level, and the frame rate was still bright with the blessing of FSR.
The Ryzen 8700G and 8600G run heavier games and still achieve 100 frames per second. In this range, 8600G has the power to fight with the GTX 1650, and 8700G can be described as crazy.
1080p low image quality heavy load gaming test
It's time to give these integrated graphics cards an eye shot, as most of the games below have been known as hardware killers, and some of them have been held to this day.
2077 fsr21 seems to have an optimized bonus for AMD graphics cards, and the frame rate crushes the GTX 1650. In particular, the average frame rate of the Ryzen 7 8700G can reach 83FPS, and its lowest frame rate has exceeded 60FPS, which means that gamers can do a serious job with this CPU alone.
The super-resolution function of "Shadow" only supports Intel's XESS, and the compatibility is inferior, and the picture flashes abnormally when the N-card independent display is running, so the results are not counted, and only the results under the time anti-aliasing are valid.
Biohazard 4 Remake", since Capcom never drops the chain on optimization, everyone often underestimates the hardware requirements of this game - it really can't be low. Action games with a third-person over-the-shoulder perspective don't have the same stringent frame rate requirements as FPS, and speeds above 70fps are still enough to watch.
If The Witcher 3 turns off FSR XESS, the frame rate will be too low and lose the meaning of the game, so only the frame rate with Super Resolution optimization turned on is tested. As a result, 8600g is tied with 1650, and 8700g is better.
Requiem's super-resolution optimization only supports DLSS, and none of you here support it, so turn down the image quality to compete for the basic performance. In the end, 8600G and 1650 are considered to have achieved the frame rate of the introductory plot experience, and 8700G is close to the minimum smooth threshold of 60fps.
Overall, in the face of games that are not so well optimized, or indeed heavily loaded, the Ryzen 8700G series has completely withstood the test, showing stronger withstand voltage than the i5+ GPU combination, and it seems that the heavier the load, the more obvious the advantages of the former.
AI applications in games
Finally, let's talk about the Ryzen 8000G processor for applications outside of gaming. The application of AI is in full swing around the world, from supercomputers using professional chips, professional equipment, and professional venues, to personal PCs in front of thousands of households, which can be used as a carrier of AI, and you only need to have hardware that can do tensor computing for AI.
In the past, the AI acceleration device that individual consumers could buy was a GPU, which was quite affordable compared with expensive professional chips, but it was not enough, and now AMD has added the NPU to the Ryzen 8000G so that you can save even the GPU.
Let's take a look at how to use NPUs for AI acceleration and introduce some practical cases that are close to life.
The first app is still related to gaming, and when we play esports games, we often have some great moments, but the moments that happen are unpredictable, and unless we continue to record the game from the beginning, we will have a hard time recording these highlights.
This problem is not difficult to solve, as long as the screen recording software can always track and record the player's game screen from a period of time, and the **cache that exceeds the time will be deleted, so that it can continue to record under limited storage space. After hitting the best shots, players can save the **cache that started recording a few minutes ago with one click. However, this still requires additional manual work, which can be distracting in the heat of the fight, and maintaining the recording requires additional computing power on the GPU, which affects the frame rate of the game.
Now the Ryzen 8000G processor has an XDNA architecture NPU developed specifically for AI computing, and the Super Moment function of Game++ can call this part of the computing power to record**, automatically identify the wonderful moments of the player's operation, and save them. For example, for each enemy you kill, save the screen recordings from a few minutes before and after.
When using a Ryzen 8000G processor with an NPU, you can see the NPU options in the hardware monitoring OSD menu, and check them to see how they are working in real-time in the game.
The OSD provided by Game++ can observe the frequency and usage of the NPU in real time The OSD provided by Game++ can observe the frequency and usage of the NPU in real timeImage processing AI applications
In the field of image AI restoration, Ryzen 8000G NPUs can also show their skills. Topaz Photo AI and Topaz Video AI are two software that can easily repair and optimize ** and **, users can choose a preset AI model, and quickly perform different types of processing operations on the picture, which can be completed in seconds without increasing CPU usage.
*The same can be done:
*Essentially made up of myriad**, it will be slower to fix, and it is still much easier than before to have a chip dedicated to AI acceleration.
So far, AMD's processor-integrated GPUs have not only left competitors in the dust in terms of gaming performance, but now the latest 8000G series also has a head start on future-oriented AI computing.
We have learned that Windows 12, the next-generation operating system to be released this summer, has added a large number of AI computing functions, users can generate their own wallpapers, keywords intelligently generate emails, copywriting, intelligent positioning**, and even generate their own UI interfaces through inference and training under known conditions. So far, the integrated graphics computing power of AMD's processors has not only left competitor Intel in the dust in terms of gaming performance, but also has a head start in AI computing, which will surely become popular in the future.
Review: Best discrete display solution
At the moment of the final summary, let's return to the main axis that Nomad Star netizens care about - game performance, and summarize the test results of Ryzen 8700G and 8600G to see if we can find out the commendable points.
Looking at the 11 games tested, except for "A Plague Tale: Requiem", the average frame rate of the two CPUs in the remaining 10 games is not less than 60FPS, indicating that not only the ** high Ryzen 7 8700G, but even the people-friendly 8600G can also play an important role in the PC configuration without graphics cards. If you can't get a better independent display for the time being, you can seriously experience a game masterpiece with only 8600g, instead of just playing casually.
The 8700G is a different story, with more than half of its games approaching or reaching 100 fps, and two games exceeding 120 fps. If you're not that sensitive to image quality, it can even make it to the end of the game until it's completely obsolete and needs to be rebuilt.
Ryzen 7 8700G** is not low,2499Yuan is the same as the current top grid i5 14600K,Anyway,It's stronger than 14600K plus a GTX1650 independent display,11 game masterpieces8700G won 7。 Of course, we can't recommend everyone to rely on it to play games because we buy 8700G than i5 for nothing, 8700G** there, it's better to add a little more budget to play games, and reallocate it to the CPU and graphics card to improve the experience. The core value of 8700G is to provide you with the best solution when you cannot use the independent graphics card for various reasons, which can make up for your regrets to the greatest extent.
The Ryzen G-series is undoubtedly the processor of choice for mini graphics-less PCsTypical scenarios are as follows:
The budget is limited, and there is a rigid need for CPU performance, and I can't rely on the combination of i3+ independent graphics card to take into account the game performance, what should I do if I want to play games at this time? - Ryzen 7 8700g.
The low-end graphics card can't be looked at, and the high-end graphics card is worth thousands of dollars at every turn, so you have to save money, and what if you want to use the computer first and play the game first? - Ryzen 7 8700g, Ryzen 5 8600g.
What if you have a cramped living space, or don't want to spoil the environment, and plan to build a super mini PC without a separate display, but still want to play games? - Ryzen 7 8700g, Ryzen 5 8600g.
I don't play games, I don't want to buy a discrete graphics card, but I want to use the Windows 12 operating system in the future to make AI acceleration a little better - Ryzen 7 8700G, Ryzen 5 8600G.
In fact, if you look closely at the summary bar chart above, the game performance of Ryzen 5 8600g is not much worse than that of Ryzen 7 8700g, generally between 80% and 90%, which means that as long as 8700g can play games, 8600g is basically no problem, and the game experience is not much different, and the price of 1699 yuan is only 68% of the former. If you're really planning to spend the least amount of money to play the game, 8600g is the most affordable option at this stage.
The AMD G processor series has been updated quite at a long time, with 8700G, just like its predecessor 5700G, which will shine after experiencing price cuts over time.